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Senate votes down recycling motion

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  1. P.R. Fo' LYFE! says:

    In my p.r. and finance majors, I learned capital improvements are infrastructure related expenditures and not recycling bins. Think of it this way ——— can you steal a steel door hinged to building or a recycling bin easier? BINS=NOT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

  2. P.R. Fo' LYFE! says:

    In my p.r. and finance majors, I learned capital improvements are infrastructure related expenditures and not recycling bins. Think of it this way — ——- can you steal a steel door hinged to building or a recycling bin easier? BINS=NOT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

  3. Matt Jurysta says:

    Arguments can be made either way if recycling bins are capital investment. But I dont think our (Drake’s) decision on that classification should be made based on looking what other universities say. That would be cheating and the easy way out. I think we need to decide for ourselves on this. I think recycling bins are much like printers, computers and other non capital investment sort of things and are much less like doors, sidewalks and railings(currently being installed) which are considered capital investments. I do think senate’s money can be used to purchase recycling bins especially in a time of need. However! it is 100% the obligation of administration and facilities to provide these for us, and senate agrees. But like chambers said we are a community and we live and work together. Therefore there should be nothing wrong with a little help from student senate in addressing this problem of a lack of recycling bins on campus. So I think it should be ok for senate to lend a helping hand in equipping the students with something they need, without the baggage of thinking its something we expect of them. We not saying its senate responsibility, were just saying we would like a little help on the matter.

    There is definitely some misunderstanding in the matter and I’d like to think that the statement made by mark chambers of the facilities department adequately represents the thought and feelings of the students who care on this issue. It was not rude of him to say and i don’t think anyone needs to be defensive about it. Facilities didnt ask for this, the students did.

  4. Matt Jurysta says:

    Arguments can be made either way if recycling bins are capital investment. But I dont think our (Drake’s) decision on that classification should be made based on looking what other universities say. That would be cheating and the easy way out. I think we need to decide for ourselves on this. I think recycling bins are much like printers, computers and other non capital investment sort of things and are much less like doors, sidewalks and railings(currently being installed) which are considered capital investments. I do think senate’s money can be used to purchase recycling bins especially in a time of need. However! it is 100% the obligation of administration and facilities to provide these for us, and senate agrees. But like chambers said we are a community and we live and work together. Therefore there should be nothing wrong with a little help from student senate in addressing this problem of a lack of recycling bins on campus. So I think it should be ok for senate to lend a helping hand in equipping the students with something they need, without the baggage of thinking its something we expect of them. We not saying its senate responsibility, were just saying we would like a little help on the matter.

    There is definitely some misunderstanding in the matter and I’d like to think that the statement made by mark chambers of the facilities department adequately represents the thought and feelings of the students who care on this issue. It was not rude of him to say and i don’t think anyone needs to be defensive about it. Facilities didnt ask for this, the students did.

  5. Student says:

    I agree that the recycle bins should be provided by the University as opposed to student fees. Still, our student senators don’t get the concept, but that shouldn’t come as a surprise. They toss around the words “capital improvements” like they invented it, but they are misusing the term. Capital improvements are the addition of a permanent structural improvement or the restoration of some aspect of a property that will either enhance the property’s overall value or increases its useful life (i.e. recent freshmen dorm renovations). Recycling bins don’t do either.

    And shame on the university for having the available funds, but instead trying to tap into student fees.

  6. Student says:

    I agree that the recycle bins should be provided by the University as opposed to student fees. Still, our student senators don’t get the concept, but that shouldn’t come as a surprise. They toss around the words “capital improvements” like they invented it, but they are misusing the term. Capital improvements are the addition of a permanent structural improvement or the restoration of some aspect of a property that will either enhance the property’s overall value or increases its useful life (i.e. recent freshmen dorm renovations). Recycling bins don’t do either.

    And shame on the university for having the available funds, but instead trying to tap into student fees.

  7. Sam J says:

    no reason why senate couldnt fund those bins. senate acts like there is a right or wrong answer. they are right and everyone else is dumb.

  8. Sam J says:

    no reason why senate couldnt fund those bins. senate acts like there is a right or wrong answer. they are right and everyone else is dumb.

  9. Another says:

    If the STUDENTS want recycling bins, what’s wrong with using student fees? Where does it say that they must be spent on activities? Nothing Drake orgs spend on activities are usually worth it anyway.

  10. Another says:

    If the STUDENTS want recycling bins, what’s wrong with using student fees? Where does it say that they must be spent on activities? Nothing Drake orgs spend on activities are usually worth it anyway.

  11. Anon says:

    maybe STUDENTS should trust Senate to do things correctly. For instance, the bins were PAID for by Friday morning. Without using student ACTIVITY fees. So instead, facilities used money ALSO PAID BY STUDENTS (ie-tuition) to fund something, and now activity fees can be used for ACTIVITIES

  12. Anon says:

    maybe STUDENTS should trust Senate to do things correctly. For instance, the bins were PAID for by Friday morning. Without using student ACTIVITY fees. So instead, facilities used money ALSO PAID BY STUDENTS (ie-tuition) to fund something, and now activity fees can be used for ACTIVITIES

  13. Zac says:

    Will you explain to me what some of these “activities” are? I haven’t seen a lot of “activities” coming out of Senate these days. Especially when they have a collective budget of over $40,000. It looks as if Senate is now living vicariously through the campus organizations it funds, thus claiming they take an active role in drake politics.

    Furthermore it doesn’t bother you that Senate had a meeting to discuss the purchase of bins when they knew the bins were already paid for? What then was the purpose of a comprehensive recycling motion? There is a lot of deception going on inside Senate that the student population has chosen to ignore. That’s why this issue is more than just recycling bins. It was about exposing an organization that no longer listens to the student population. On top of that, Senate needs to stand for something or they stand for nothing.

    I have spent a good amount of time in the Senate meetings trying to convey this message. Sadly, I am often met with hostility and or a type of blind misconception. Senate doesn’t want to be criticized because they have taken this whole situation personally. It’s no longer about protecting their constituents. It has become a mad frenzy to cover their asses.

    I would urge you (Anon) to take a closer look at this situation. And more importantly, show up to some Senate meetings (if you haven’t all ready). Question your Senators about their voting records.

  14. Zac says:

    Will you explain to me what some of these “activities” are? I haven’t seen a lot of “activities” coming out of Senate these days. Especially when they have a collective budget of over $40,000. It looks as if Senate is now living vicariously through the campus organizations it funds, thus claiming they take an active role in drake politics.

    Furthermore it doesn’t bother you that Senate had a meeting to discuss the purchase of bins when they knew the bins were already paid for? What then was the purpose of a comprehensive recycling motion? There is a lot of deception going on inside Senate that the student population has chosen to ignore. That’s why this issue is more than just recycling bins. It was about exposing an organization that no longer listens to the student population. On top of that, Senate needs to stand for something or they stand for nothing.

    I have spent a good amount of time in the Senate meetings trying to convey this message. Sadly, I am often met with hostility and or a type of blind misconception. Senate doesn’t want to be criticized because they have taken this whole situation personally. It’s no longer about protecting their constituents. It has become a mad frenzy to cover their asses.

    I would urge you (Anon) to take a closer look at this situation. And more importantly, show up to some Senate meetings (if you haven’t all ready). Question your Senators about their voting records.

  15. Matt Jurysta says:

    I’m pretty sure the money for the bins was going to come from the “surplus” reserve fund not the student activity fees budget for the year.

  16. Matt Jurysta says:

    I’m pretty sure the money for the bins was going to come from the “surplus” reserve fund not the student activity fees budget for the year.